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okay !!! not very fun at all😕

How about you?

Good. But boring. 😐

how has school been?

Ok, what do u need help with?

I need some help with a Biblical debate (I am losing and I think there right, but I don't want to question my beliefs)

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hi it's me Anna Appel

One of my friends is born on Valentines Day!

Will be in February

U are 18! Cool

Look down in the comments and you’ll see it

Jappel, how old are u?

Thank you for your input, TMG. A lot of what you said is completely true and very applicable.

Treeswallow,

Thanks for taking the time to clarify your issues. I have read your post and Jappel's and I appreciate Jappel's attention to doctrine and sound theology when it comes to school (and often work) considerations. Those things are important even when we find ourselves in places and positions of great compromise like Daniel. It sounds like you are at least comfortable with Cedarville U from that perspective, so that is really, really good.

First, I would not recommend getting a Master of Divinity unless you intend on serving in a pastoral position or plan further academic vocation. Unlike Jappel (who admittedly has a clearer sense of calling), you have many options before you... taking over a business for example. Don't get me wrong, taking the time and energy to pursue greater understanding of the Bible is noble, valuable, and good. Plus, considering all that we know, a greater understanding of the Bible will no doubt help you if you decide to take on the family business. But education, and college education in particular, has two real purposes in my mind (super limited). One, to provide deeper learning and Biblical understanding in all areas of God's creation (think Cultural Mandate and Liberal Arts). Two, it provides particular exposure to a particular calling or vocation (Divinity or Business). Many people reverse these two, but I never do. As someone who has attended college and spent many years in the professional world, I have experienced way too many instances where people have benefited greatly from areas of study in college that were not directly related to their work. In fact, their exposure to things outside of their wheelhouse has been more valuable. So, in summary, if you believe you will one day be your responsibility, and you decide to go to college, get an understand of business that will help you grow and excel in business. And if Cedarville, be sure and take classes in literature, art, sciences, because God doesn't ask us to limit our understanding of His creation to your daily work.

Second, college is neither required nor immediate. Except with regard to scholarships, you do not have to go to college right away. It seems to me, that if you don't know what you want to do in life, it might be worth it to wait. College can be a great way to discover interest and direction, but there is no harm in waiting. When you're young, it is easy to see these big decisions as immediate and final, but the world is filled with stories of people who start college, don't finish, come back, etc. Some go to college, get married, graduate with a degree they don't want just to finish and get on with life. At least some of the pressure you feel is based on the idea of a rigid schedule. Graduate high school, go to college for x number of years, graduate, start job, get married, then start a family. Yet, God has shown time and time again, that His plans are rarely that clear to us. Nor is He limited when our schedule doesn't go as we expect or want. Praise the Lord, I have three kids who have all been different. My oldest graduated from college, got married, worked a couple of years and then went to Grad school and now is becoming an architect. He and his wife had their first kid in the middle of grad school and as you can imagine... super challenging. But God is merciful and they are blessed. My daughter took a gap year after HS and went to Japan. She decided to go to school there. After graduating she married a Japanese fellow and they are about to have their first child just in time for them to come to America so she can attend law school (with a new born?!?!?!? Still very concerned), and my youngest son got married in the middle of college. He and his wife were in school when they got married. Now they are both out and working. Not one of my children followed the expected path, but they all know Jesus (along with their spouses) and that is what matters.

I don't want to minimize the stress you feel over the decisions you are making, treeswallow, but what I hope you take away is that you will make all of these decisions in faith. Not a saving faith, but rather faith that you are a child of the King. He has plans for you that cannot fail. One one level, it is true, you can make a bad decision. But on the other hand, in trusting Him, you will be brought through your decisions on a wild ride that will bring Him glory.

Hang in there, keep thinking through your options, but don't fret them. All decisions are opportunities to trust in your savior and His plans. You may falter, but He won't.

Hope this helps... though I have to say, please make sure you take my thoughts with a grain of salt. Your friends and family know you much better and have valuable advice... weigh all accordingly, and keep trusting in the Lord!

Jappel, it is fine. You really are mature. PROMISE

Sorry for all the posts. My phone was glitching

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Jappel, no need to apologies. You are very mature. 😉

And i apologize if I have offended anyone who is around the age of 12. I mean nothing negative about 12 year olds. I just believe that I should be showing the maturity of a 17 almost 18 year old and not the maturity of a 12 year old.
Just thought of that after I posted my last one.

Ok. I am truly sorry that I may have acted like I was that age.
I don’t feel like that info my liberty to share. If she wants to tell you that, she can.

I thought you were like 12. How old is ur sis?

How old did you think I was?!?!

Jappel I did not know u were that old!

No worries treeswallow. Anyone can join.

When it comes to college, I look first at doctrine, history, leadership, majors, and alumni. I have visited several colleges, and I feel lead to Ambassador Baptist College in Lattimore, NC. ambassadors.edu is the website.
The doctrine is sound in both Bible and music. The history is clean with great preachers on it’s past. Leaderships is found in the Bible and then preachers and evangelists, some of which are personal friends of mind. Majors are minded for those that want to go into the ministry, and there is an evangelist major, that is kinda hard to find, and I’ve been encouraged by evangelist friends to go. My parents are alumni of ABC, and as I look at the life and ministries of other alumni, I see that ABC is not wavering.

That is why I am going to that college LORD willing.

Treeswallow, I know what you’re feeling when you say that you’ll miss your friends. My siblings are already starting to miss me. I have several good friends that might be going to different colleges and I’ll miss them. Just follow God’s will and who knows, you might make some friends at college.

And thank you TMG for your advice and prayers.

TheMoviegoer I'm not too sure... There are several factors. My parents own a small manufacturing business (I work there) and I have the opportunity to take it over as the company grows. I'd also like to try some other jobs before I skedaddle to college. If I were to go to Cedarville, I would go for a Master of Divinity. Another five years of school seems daunting to me, plus the money (even with my scholarship), plus I have friends near home that I would rather not part with. I know Cedarville is a great place, I have no problem with it, but I just don't know if that's what I should do. I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place. Any of your wisdom would be much appreciated!

Is there a group called 'Biblical Wisdom/Advice"? I feel this conversation would be more appropriate there. :-)

I think I still qualify for this group. My dad was a pastor (he passed away in 2010). The last church he served before he retired in 2005 was Coventry Presbyterian Church in Yorktown, VA.

Treeswallow, what is your concern regarding attending Cedarville U (or a Christian college)? Is it simply wanting to do something else or college in general, etc.?

Jappel,

While Evangelist is a biblical term, it is not exclusive. The term comes from the greek and was originally a herald sent out by conquering generals to share the outcome of the war/batter, i.e., share the "good news" in that case. Which is beautifully appropriate when applied to the gospel message.

It sounds to me like you're sensing of God's calling to share the gospel probably is a gift. I am praying that you will continue to serve well as your work, ministry, calling, vocation, become more clear.

@Jappel I'm technically not supposed to be in this group, but I'm just wondering where you're going to college. Both of my older brothers have gone to Cedarville University, a very solid Christian college. I've been having a really hard time lately with whether or not I should go too. I have a pretty good scholarship to go there, but I don't really know if that's what the Lord wants me to do this fall. If I may ask, how did you make the decision? What solidified your choice?

They are mainly called that in the USA. Evangelist is actually a biblical term. Pretty much someone that preaches the Gospel as Carla said. Here in the USA, Evangelists travel around and have meetings in churches where there is a lot of promoting, visitation, and such like.

Evangelism is going out and share if the Gospel to people, wether it be doorknocking, tract passing, or preaching in small crowds.

I am a pastor kid in small town Iowa, USA. I have felt God calling me to being an evangelist since I was 15. I’m 17 now and will be attending College next fall where I’ll get a good foundation and better knowledge of the Bible. If you would pray for me as I follow God’s call in my life, that would be great.

So… it means some one who speaks about there Christian faith in public?

a person who seeks to convert others to the Christian faith, especially by public preaching.