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Great choice rvfc2 I am enjoying learning Romans 4.

Yes, MrsSpooner, Romans 4 (and 5) have been really meaningful to me. I have been working on ch. 4 for awhile now and have had a tough time remembering it now that there is a longer time between testings. Yesterday I reset the progress on a few verses and rearranged some of the sections so as to get more frequent testings again and I guess my new "start" made the news. ;)

interesting reading :) I too have been working on Romans 4 and 5 for quite a while ...

I'm finding chapter 5 very difficult to remember as well. Maybe I'll try your method rvfc2.

Romans 5:15-19 are difficult for me because they are similar (but different). I found it helpful to read some commentaries on these verses - and then I reset a couple of them and am practicing them more frequently too. As for chapter 4, I don't have a good excuse. I think that remembering it long term will just require more attention than I have been giving it. Sometimes it seems as if the Lord uses that extra work to learn a verse well to teach me something that I need. Turns out to be a blessing. :-)

Those five verses you've mentioned have also been problematic for me, rvfc2.

Thank you for that tip, as to reading commentaries on the verses themselves. Good idea!

One thing I tried was creating invididual verse sets, such as Romans 5:15-18, then perhaps Romans 5:16-19, Romans 5:17-20 (when you create "individual" verses for review, you can include up to four verses in that "individual" verse).

Using that method those five verses come up for my review more often.

The old fashioned method of simply reading them out loud every day for perhaps ten days in a row will also do the trick ... but do we have the patience to be so old fashioned these days? (I ask this pointing the finger squarely at myself)

I did this with Galatians 5. Before even adding them here at LS dot net, I read them aloud for ten days in a row. Then when I did add them, they just sailed along. Now that they are more mature, there are a few which are becoming a bit difficult, but I guess I'll just have to go back and read them aloud again, maybe for five days in a row this time ... I hope all this helps someone :)

What you call old fashioned, Joosep, I call effective. ;) It is how I have memorized for many years. I like using this app, too. It keeps me practicing during the day. If I'm memorizing from my Bible I usually just do it as a part of devotional time.

Thanks for your idea of setting up individual verse sets of the challenging passages. I'm looking forward to trying it.

I agree ... it is indeed effective. I'm going to make it my aim to do that more in the future, "prepping" the verses before adding them, by reading them aloud for several days.

I agree ... it is indeed effective. I'm going to make it my aim to do that more in the future, "prepping" the verses before adding them, by reading them aloud for several days.

If you want to reset your progress without losing your streak, you can just do really bad on a verse. Like literally miss every word, and it'll reset your progress back significantly. I went from three months to 20 hours doing that once. Of course, that was on accident because I was frustrated with a verse, but I digress.

It would be nice if we could control the intervals. The early intervals are great, but once it gets out past a month they get too long when you are doing a chapter. Glad I'm not the only one struggling with that.

I also agree that it is difficult to memorize verses that sound similar. John 6-8 is really bad about that, but the OT is the worst. Try memorizing Ezekiel 18:23-32 without pulling your hair out! Great verse set though.

I've done that too, onfire ... at first unintentionally, but then several times also intentionally, I mean, trying to reduce 75% down to 25% or something like that ... yes, it would be awesome if we could control the intervals "at will".

Regarding intervals, if you do ‘test instead of read’ for a whole chapter, you get to retest everything at the interval that is set for the weakest verse in the chapter, which works well for me. But it does come with the disadvantage that you can all-too-easily unlearn a verse that previously got to 100%. But I suppose that is fair too, if I don’t really remember it properly!

yes, good point, PeterP. In that scenario, if you score 100% on a verse, the progress might be only 4, 3, 2, or 1 percent, depending on that verse's proportional relationship with the weakest verse.

Thanks for the tips on getting on with Romans 5 verses better. Am definitely going to try the small group tip from joosep. I also plan to listen to some sermons over Easter on it, to make them more pertinent. Martin Lloyd-Jones www.mljtrust.org has many amazing sermons online.

It's very helpful to have an open discussion about this ... it has certainly helped me to improve the learning/memorization process.

Joosep, I just started an individual verse set and really liked the continuity of having 4 verses together. Thanks for the idea - I expect to use this method often.

Onfire247, I have used that method for lowering the progress level (sometimes intentionally, sometimes not). It works well when I'm at 97-99% and know that I don't want to finish the verse yet - just back off a bit.

PeterP, I always do "test instead of read" and find it helpful both for review and continuity when reciting a passage.

MrsSpooner, I also like to listen to sermons on specific passages that I am learning or thinking about. Sermon Audio has many sermons that can be chosen by scripture reference, as well as by speaker or topic.

These are all helpful ideas. Thank you all for sharing. Another method I use sometimes when hitting a rough patch is to simply go to verse progress, choose a verse, and then choose to practice the verse or section or passage. You don't earn points or badge levels, but you can practice the passage by testing.

You're welcome rvfc2. I'll just share one more thing, if it's helpful to anyone. For verses 17, 18, and 19 of Romans 5, I use acronyms to memorize the first four words of each verse -- especially because the first four words were at first the ones I was most often getting wrong.

17 FIBT (I remember "fib", a white lie).
18 STAT (I remember "stat", as used in a hospital)
19 FATT (I remember "fat", a condition which afflicts many of us) (smile)

Using these has helped me with these verses a lot. However, these acronyms are specifically for the NASV ... if you're using the ESV, perhaps you'l have to make your own acronyms :)

You're welcome rvfc2. I'll just share one more thing, if it's helpful to anyone. For verses 17, 18, and 19 of Romans 5, I use acronyms to memorize the first four words of each verse -- especially because the first four words were at first the ones I was most often getting wrong.

17 FIBT (I remember "fib", a white lie).
18 STAT (I remember "stat", as used in a hospital)
19 FATT (I remember "fat", a condition which afflicts many of us) (smile)

Using these has helped me with these verses a lot. However, these acronyms are specifically for the NASV ... if you're using the ESV, perhaps you'l have to make your own acronyms :)

That is helpful, Joosep. For the KJV the acronyms are FIB, TAB, and FAB. :)

Glad that worked out well!

Thanks for all the helpful comments. It’s amazing how much I don’t know yet about this site! Lots of good ideas in there.
One other idea which hasn’t been mentioned is that I like to fall asleep listening over and over again to a passage that I’m learning. Sometimes I set a book of the Bible to just read over and over. Like John’s gospel currently.

Would anyone use this? https://learnscripture.net/verse-set/a-verse-from-each-chapter-in-genesis/

That's a useful idea, Susan. Anyone learning your set would then get an overview of the entire book of Genesis.

I agree!