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TheMoviegoer started learning Complete - Mark 01

onfire247 2022-04-24 15:03

How much further to go in Mark?

TheMoviegoer 2022-04-24 22:39

Thanks for asking, Onfire247. I am currently in the 1st 3rd of Mark 14. It's funny, only my reviews of Chapter 01 show up in the news feed. Still grinding though. And loving it. Hope you're doing well, too. Keep up the good work!

onfire247 2022-04-25 10:45

That's probably because when you first created that verse set you marked it as public and the rest you did not. I like seeing it show up. It reminds me that you're still being diligent about the goal. If your at 14 it won't be long now!

TheMoviegoer 2022-04-25 10:51

You are probably right on that point, and I am still trying to be as diligent as I can be. I finally have a system of progression that works well for me. I think the next book I set out to memorize will probably move a little more quickly just due to the fact that I have hit on a regular progression pattern. Still, it is hard to keep memorizing and keep up with what you have previously memorized.

TheMoviegoer 2022-04-25 10:51

I am always encouraged by your updates and comments as well. We all need it all the time.

onfire247 2022-04-25 10:59

That's great, TMG. I'm still trying to figure out my progression pattern. No matter which way I do it I either end up forgetting after a couple of months or burning out from the reviews. Lately I have been in the latter which is why my reviews have been less. I wake up every morning and see my to do list and just sigh. I still do it, but when I hit a rough patch I usually just give up for the day. String a few of those together and I forget even more because of the lack of reviews. I find myself celebrating when I finish a verse because I won't have to review that one anymore, which is terrible way to view it. I've just got to power through it I guess. May I ask what your system of progression is?

TheMoviegoer 2022-04-25 11:37

Unfortunately, I feel your pain. There are often moments where things become more tedious than others, and that weighty feeling of gutting it through passages that are more complicated (not as easy to recall) can be very challenging. I have to admit, I am pushing through, mostly because I can see a bit of light at the end of the tunnel (being on Chapter 14 of 16). So keep at it… even if you can do as much.

Here is my system.
I use the general thematic breaks you will find in most Bibles, for example, Mark 1 breaks down into 8 parts, “John the Baptist Prepares the Way,” “The Baptism of Jesus,” “The Temptation of Jesus,” etc. to organize my progress.

So, when I begin a chapter, I create a set based on the first thematic break.
Mark 01 - 01 John the Baptist Prepares the way

I will literally type from reading the verses in that section 10 times in a row. Note, I am reading at this point, and not trying to memorize… just transcribing basically. I do this until I feel like I can get through without losing %, and from that point, I keep practicing 10 times in a row each day. I continue this process until I get my completion percentage up to 50%.

Once I am at 50%, I create a new set for the next section.
Mark 01 - 02 The Baptism of Jesus

Then, I also create another new set called
Incomplete - Mark 01 (01 to 01). At this point, it is only the first section of Mark 1

Then I work on transcribing Mark 01 -02 10 times each day until I have it down. Then I continue that section 10 times a day until it hits 50%. When that happens, I edit
Incomplete - Mark 01 to include sections 1 & 2, and I create the next set
Mark 01 - 03. And repeat the process.

As I keep adding sections, the Incomplete Mark chapter keeps growing. When I complete all the sections of the chapter, I edit Incomplete Mark to
Complete - Mark 01
I begin the next chapter with the first section, and now the list looks like this:

Complete - Mark 01
Incomplete - Mark 02 (01 - 01)
Mark 01 -01
Mark 01 - 02
Mark 01 - 03…
Mark 02 - 01

So, at this point, my daily routine includes:
1. Working section 10 times (transcribing or from memory, depending on where I am in the process)

2. Chapter review

I have a particular goal I set for myself each day, but at a bare minimum, I try and work on the new section, and then I will do chapter reviews until I hit my goal. So today, I did
Mark 14-07 (just started transcribing)

Complete - Mark 06
Complete - Mark 07
Complete - Mark 08…

Tomorrow, I will continue working on Mark 14 07 (at 18%…. It usually takes around 4 days to get a big section like this one into my brain, then another 4 days to hit 50 %)

I will then tackle my Complete Chapter reviews. Note, when I get to Incomplete Chapter 14, I will be covering chapter 14 sections 1-6, unless 7 is added by the time I get there. Then I just move back to chapter 1 and start over.

The only new wrinkle I have added is verse review. I have created individual sets for verses in chapter 1 that are not at 100%… mostly short verses that I have lost significant percentage due to errors. I just do a couple of those 10 times in a row.

Final note. I do not just follow the sites “Dashboard” reminders. I actually begin each day entering what the site prompts me to, but then I go to my system.

I don’t know if this is at all clear, but I feel like this system is working for me now. The main thing is getting the new section and chapter review done each day (include the incomplete chapter review only when it comes up in rotation.). Also, only the current working section and verse repair need to be done 10 times in a row. Chapter reviews are done once.

Thoughts?

FinalAsgard 2022-04-25 12:06

I found a new tool to help with reviews of chapters that looks very promising. Check this out: https://scripturememory.com/verselocker/grid/

It creates a PDF that you print out, of basically the first letter of each word in the chapter, and organizes it into a grid pattern so it's easy to follow/remember.

I think that carrying this around with me for regular review is going to help a lot.

TheMoviegoer 2022-04-25 12:38

That is a great point, FinalAsgard. I did not even address recitation, which I have down pretty good for the first 6 chapters. I often struggle in the later chapters as I try to recite in the wild with no helps. I usually give up. But with a quick letter chart to help get me back on track would help too. Also, because I am working on the ESV, I can use their app which has a built in audio version. This helps reinforce as well.

onfire247 2022-04-25 15:03

Your system sounds similar to mine but you do more reviews than I do at the beginning. I feel like more reviews at the beginning make the whole process easier. I also do not follow the review queue except for individual verses. My intervals go like this: learn (as many times as it takes to get it 100%), daily (once a day for 21 days), biweekly (7 days), weekly (7), bimonthly (7), monthly (forever). Honestly, having more reviews does not bother me as long as I'm in the 95% range on the reviews. Once I start dropping into the 90s or upper 80s my moral drops significantly. I will have to think on what you've said and see how I can adapt mine to it. Thanks for taking the time to detail all of that out, TMG!

Thanks for your contributions as well FA. I will check out the grid.

JDJDJD 2022-04-25 20:23

This was encouraging to read. Keep at it and stay blessed 👏

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