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joosep started learning John 07:37-53 -- Jesus cries out (on the great day of the feast)

PeterP 2024-10-04 07:10

You’ll soon overtake me in John 😀. But now I’m intrigued: you’re learning two sections of chapter 7 today, but you’ve left a gap between them. Are you specifically choosing certain passages?

joosep 2024-10-04 09:00

Well, thank you for the analysis :) it shows you care about people in a good way. I'm going in order but I didn't make all of them public. I wanted to highlight how the text says twice that Jesus cried out -- this intrigued me. And the great day of the feast would have been the day with the greatest attendance. Anyway, have a nice day :)

joosep 2024-10-04 10:21

Peter, What part of the gospel of John are you currently working on? I think you wrote about it before but I've forgotten :)

PeterP 2024-10-05 06:36

I hadn’t thought about that. In ESV it says ‘proclaimed’ in v28 and ‘cried out’ in v37. But now you’ve drawn my attention to it, much stronger than ‘said’ or ‘answered’ which implies a discussion in normal voice. ‘Cried out’ sounds much more like a prophetic declaration to get people to listen.
I’ve just added the first half of John 8, so I’ve got the rest of 8 to do, and chapter 9 will be my final one to complete the gospel.

Phinehas 2024-10-05 13:02

Yes, thanks for clarifying that in greater detail.

joosep 2024-10-05 13:17

That was from me. I have another identity here for practicing verses and I commented by accident. Anyway, may the Lord bless your memorisation :)

treeswallow 2024-10-05 13:19

This discussion just caught my eye. Interesting!! The Greek word is κράζω, and refers to the croaking or screaming of a raven. It is used very sparingly with regard to Jesus. As far as I can see, the only other time this term is used referring to Him is His final cry on the cross (Matthew 27:50). The word is used for the crowd's shouting of Hosanna (Mark 11:9), the screaming of the demon-possessed (Mark 5:5), and the demanding cry of the Jews to crucify Jesus (Mark 15:13), among 50 other occurrences. The loud cry of Jesus in John 7:28 is to be contrasted with the people's disbelieving, quiet muttering to each other in verses 25-27. Rather than letting the crowds focus on who they thought Jesus was, He cries out and proclaims who He really is. Thank you for pointing this little nugget out!

joosep 2024-10-05 13:21

That's excellent, treeswallow! you've given us a comprehensive word study which enriches our understanding and helps these verses to come to life. thank you.

PeterP 2024-10-06 06:34

Yes, thank you Treeswallow.

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