Thank you joosep for your encouraging and commendable wishes. The main focus remains to meditate and grow in the knowledge and appreciation of God's Word continually. I don't anyone thinking I'm a genius as such nor get confused whenever a certain figure appears on the news feed repeatedly.
I would like to thank everyone for your kind wishes! While the 700 verses memorised may seem like a great achievement, it’s not so when compared with the ‘to-do-list’ on the learning list. On the other hand, I have selected ‘review sooner’ for most of the verses rather than ‘fully learnt’ in order to consolidate mental retention, hopefully 🙈! As a result, I won’t be surprised if the 700 goes on a see-saw adventure. Thank you once again!
I would like to thank everyone for your kind wishes! While the 700 verses memorised may seem like a great achievement, it’s not so when compared with the ‘to-do-list’ on the learning list. On the other hand, I have selected ‘review sooner’ for most of the verses rather than ‘fully learnt’ in order to consolidate mental retention, hopefully 🙈! As a result, I won’t be surprised if the 700 goes on a see-saw adventure. Thank you once again!
I just wanted to say, that a few years ago I too had that "see saw" situation. I had reached 300 verses fully learnt, but kept reviewing the ones fully learnt. There were maybe 5 or 6 times when I came up on the news feed that I had reached the number 300, and each time several people congratulated me. That was very kind of them, of course.
Then I decided to reset everything and start again ... something I wish now I had not done. (But all this reflects my own personal thinking, and is NOT intended to tell or not tell anyone what to do in their own case)
Fast forward to the present, my own intention now is to leave everything Fully Learnt as Fully Learnt, and to not review them anymore, so that I can bit by bit move on to other areas of the Bible which I want to incorporate here.
But I also think I totally understand you, (to Luli2016), in that you dearly want to keep those fully learnt as truly being just that, fully learnt!
So we will all rejoice with you in your see-saw adventure. As long as you are day by day growing in your knowledge and love of Him, it is all for the good! Praise God, He is so good, and I feel His kindness and goodness toward us all as I write this. Amen.
So I have a question. When you finish your verse, you get a popup asking you to stop seeing it or see it again in a year, right? How does the seesaw occur then? Are you guys saying that if you choose the one year option, it does not count the verse as finished? Perhaps I am unclear on what buttons you see when you finish a verse, and what the consequences are for hitting said buttons.
To Onfire, it's not a popup, it's one of three buttons on the lower right: Practice, See in 12 months, or Fully Learnt. If you press See in 12 months the verse could then when you review it regress and then becomes unlearnt, and thus, the "seesaw".
In addition, if a person clicks "Test instead of read" then that "Fully Learnt" verse will be presented to you again for review, perhaps long before the 12 months are up. That's also how verses could become "unlearnt".
Thank you joosep for your encouraging and commendable wishes. The main focus remains to meditate and grow in the knowledge and appreciation of God's Word continually. I don't anyone thinking I'm a genius as such nor get confused whenever a certain figure appears on the news feed repeatedly.
So if I'm understanding correctly, if you select the see again in 12 months option, and then twelve months later get below the 85% threshold, you will lose your fully learned status? But if you get it above the 85% after a year, it stays learned? And the same is true of the test again? In other words, the only danger of seesaw is if you fail the next test under either method?
It isn't always 12 months later. If you review the whole passage and then click "Test instead of read", then you will be tested on that fully learnt verse -- perhaps much earlier than that 12 months. If your score is low enough, you'll be penalized, and it won't be fully learnt anymore. I'm not aware of 85% being the key percentage -- it's the first I've heard of that.
Part of the issue here is that (I at least) don't always evaluate everything going on in terms of percentages, what threshhold is necessary to keep something fully learnt etc., every time I test a fully learnt verse. Actually, as I said, I don't test on fully learnt verses anymore -- I simply review what is due. My own "see saw" experience took place about three years ago. I reached 300. Some fully learnt verses came due, I tested on them, failed, but then some others at 95-99% came up for review, I tested, got a good score, and then went back up above 300 again. That happened several times because I had many verses spread out over a period of about 3 years.
I hope that helps somewhat. It'll be much clearer to you once you experience it. You signed up on 20 August, so sometime this fall all this will become much clearer to you :) I don't pretend to be any expert -- but as I said, now I just leave them fully learnt, because I want to move on to other parts of the Bible.
To onfire247, that's exactly what happens . What I called seesaw effect is dependent on that review performance. Understandably, verses like John 3:16 or John 10:10 are less likely to be endanger the overall percentage but when reviewing whole chapters is a little more risky. I hope I have provided somewhat a clear explanation.
Thanks for the clarification guys. I haven't decided what I'm going to do with my verses yet. Some of them I am ready to stop seeing ha! I think my closest is at 95% with an interval of 5 months. I think I'm a month or two into it, so I guess I don't have to decide anytime soon. Regarding the 85% threshold, that is the lowest percentage I have been able to get without it triggering a practice or loss of progress. I'm not sure if that is the actual threshold, however, just what I've observed.
Onfire, for a fully-learnt verse, when you review it, the accuracy threshold required to keep it fully-learnt is about 90%. Anything lower than that will make it ‘unlearnt’ again. When you review any verse, the threshold for deciding progress - up or down - is relative to the current % learnt for that verse, I believe.
Hi joosep, I totally understand the complexities, that result from the process of forgiveness. - Another quote: “We cannot change what we have experienced, but we can choose how the experiences change us. My trust gets built when I see God’s work with my human eyes. But what builds my faith is when I can’t see or understand what He does. Instead, I choose to place my trust in who He is and declare Him good in the midst of the unknowns.” I have to confess that it hasn’t been an easy journey, but I’m grateful to the Lord for the grace given to be obedient to Him. Thank you for your kind words, though undeserving. May you be strengthened in Him and by Him, who is able and willing, and for His glory. Praying for you both, God bless.
Thank you joosep for your encouraging words. I have been struggling myself for a while with forgiveness, so I’m hoping this verse set will be useful and helpful in prompting me to obey God’s Word and create a ‘clean and tender’ heart in me. “Deep pain is excellent at revealing a truer truth than our soul even dares to admit. (Forgiving what you can’t forget - By Lisa Terkeurst) “ I have realised that I’m keeping myself hostage with the pain of past offences and I would like to be able to release myself from the imprisonment of these emotions (hurt, anger, bitterness, betrayal, fear ...) which have weakened my “will” to love and ability to trust others. I realise that I have the potential to hurt other people as much as I have been hurt and harmed by them, intentionally or unaware, and that’s why I feel responsible to equip myself with all the knowledge and understanding of God’s Word on forgiveness so that I will not be a stumbling block to anyone, even more so to my fellow-believers. In the words of Elisabeth Elliot, I would like to be able to: “ Ask for grace to treat that person as if nothing had ever happened” and strive for it until I have obtained that grace.
Hello Luli2016 :) Thank you for creating this set. I can tell you honestly, that already Proverbs 17:9 spoke to me quite specifically about a rather difficult situation which exists in my life at this moment. So thank you for your obedience to Him! Isaiah 55:11 (NASV) applies here:
So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.
Thank you joosep for your encouraging words. I have been struggling myself for a while with forgiveness, so I’m hoping this verse set will be useful and helpful in prompting me to obey God’s Word and create a ‘clean and tender’ heart in me. “Deep pain is excellent at revealing a truer truth than our soul even dares to admit. (Forgiving what you can’t forget - By Lisa Terkeurst) “ I have realised that I’m keeping myself hostage with the pain of past offences and I would like to be able to release myself from the imprisonment of these emotions (hurt, anger, bitterness, betrayal, fear ...) which have weakened my “will” to love and ability to trust others. I realise that I have the potential to hurt other people as much as I have been hurt and harmed by them, intentionally or unaware, and that’s why I feel responsible to equip myself with all the knowledge and understanding of God’s Word on forgiveness so that I will not be a stumbling block to anyone, even more so to my fellow-believers. In the words of Elisabeth Elliot, I would like to be able to: “ Ask for grace to treat that person as if nothing had ever happened” and strive for it until I have obtained that grace.
For some reason it gave me Proverbs 10:12 as the next one. Not sure why, maybe because the Lord knew that I needed it LOL :) I'm slowly working on John 7 and very much looking forward to the day when I can work on John 8!
Luli2016, I came upon this by chance, and shared some of those quotes with my wife, the ones above from the books you've read. We (my wife and I are both dealing with the issue of forgiveness at the moment, concerning someone who has hurt us, whom we need to forgive ... anyway, I hope this is encouraging to you, that what you shared is bearing / will bear fruit.
Hi joosep, I totally understand the complexities, that result from the process of forgiveness. - Another quote: “We cannot change what we have experienced, but we can choose how the experiences change us. My trust gets built when I see God’s work with my human eyes. But what builds my faith is when I can’t see or understand what He does. Instead, I choose to place my trust in who He is and declare Him good in the midst of the unknowns.” I have to confess that it hasn’t been an easy journey, but I’m grateful to the Lord for the grace given to be obedient to Him. Thank you for your kind words, though undeserving. May you be strengthened in Him and by Him, who is able and willing, and for His glory. Praying for you both, God bless.
I’m still managing to add a new verse but not so successful at keeping the review list small 😉! Not that I’m not enjoying it! I’m getting a little frustrated with myself for not memorising the verses with the same pace but it’s a learning journey!
Thank you T-rey, Symota, biblememorizerCamilaParker and rvfc2 for your kind thoughts! Thank you Janet, AnnetteCN and PeterP for your example and encouraging support along the way, which has made the journey much more enjoyable and rewarding. I totally agree with AnnetteCN in relation to the long list of reviewing which at times gets overwhelming. My only advice would be select passages that you really enjoy and intend to memorise. If you are thinking of memorising a whole book, e.g. the book of Ephesians, make sure you break it into section or chapter. Having to review the whole 155 verses, (if I’m not mistaken) in one go and trying to add a new verse can feel like mission impossible. Thank you once again for all your encouragement and fellowship.
That is so very kind of you onfire247! I have to admit that I felt a little more determined to reach this goal by the cheering support from you all, and at the same time I felt accountable for doing all I could. Had I thought of the badge only I think I would have never gotten this far. Initially, I hoped I would be as consistent as JDJDJD, joosep, Annette, and many others whose names I can’t remember, but then I thought, why stop now. That’s how all happened! However, the main goal remains the same!
Thank you MrsSpooner! I would definitely like to continue learning a new verse every day for as long as I can. The main reason for this is so that not only I can abide in the Word in way that guides and guards me in all aspects of life but also strengthens my faith when reason and sense leave me wondering. I hope this makes sense.
Thank you joosep and mrsmoo for your kind words. ☺️ I have been greatly encouraged by everyone’s example. Thank you Luke for all the hard work you put into keeping this site running and for the extra badge! Beyond points and badges, although all pleasantly rewarding, I am grateful for the opportunity this tool/resource has given me to meditate on the Word and grow more in the knowledge of Him who is worthy of our worship and praise. I’m not too sure if I will continue to add one verse every day, but even if I do, it is more of a personal challenge as I would like to learn the whole gospel of John.
You may know that I already had to add another level, just for you - I'm not adding another one I'm afraid! Also, I forgot to add the points for level 10, so it crashed when it was supposed to give you the points+notification, which is why it didn't show up earlier today. I fixed that now.
God bless, and make sure you enjoy a break at some point!
Praise the Lord! Thank you, Luli2016, for not only setting a good example of faithfulness, but also being a consistent gentle-hearted encourager to all on this site.
Thank you joosep and mrsmoo for your kind words. ☺️ I have been greatly encouraged by everyone’s example. Thank you Luke for all the hard work you put into keeping this site running and for the extra badge! Beyond points and badges, although all pleasantly rewarding, I am grateful for the opportunity this tool/resource has given me to meditate on the Word and grow more in the knowledge of Him who is worthy of our worship and praise. I’m not too sure if I will continue to add one verse every day, but even if I do, it is more of a personal challenge as I would like to learn the whole gospel of John.
Huge congratulations! Praise God for your dedication to His word. Just out of interest do you think you will continue learning a new verse every day now?
Thank you MrsSpooner! I would definitely like to continue learning a new verse every day for as long as I can. The main reason for this is so that not only I can abide in the Word in way that guides and guards me in all aspects of life but also strengthens my faith when reason and sense leave me wondering. I hope this makes sense.
You did it! I am so happy for you! When I first joined the site, I decided I was going to do three years because no one had ever done it before. I'll admit, I used to check everyone on the leader list hoping that each of you would miss a day so I could be the first. But then, as the days drug on, I realized how difficult it is to do it. And why no one has ever done it before. Then my attitude started to change. I began to feel bad when someone at the top would miss a day, because I knew how painful that must be. But all along, you just kept chugging toward the goal. And oddly enough, I found myself legitimately getting excited for my "competition" because it dawned on me that you guys aren't my competition. We're all on the same team. Needless to say, when I saw you got it this morning my heart leaped! I am a relative noob to this site at close to 6 months, but I know full well how hard it is with the pandemic, and the holidays, and the vacations (not to mention the days you just don't feel like logging in) to keep adding a verse every day. One day I almost forgot to login because I got busy and almost lost my streak for nothing, but i digress. I can't even imagine doing all that for three years! Well, I can now! I don't know if I'll ever meet you up there at the top, but at least now I know its possible! So happy! So proud!
That is so very kind of you onfire247! I have to admit that I felt a little more determined to reach this goal by the cheering support from you all, and at the same time I felt accountable for doing all I could. Had I thought of the badge only I think I would have never gotten this far. Initially, I hoped I would be as consistent as JDJDJD, joosep, Annette, and many others whose names I can’t remember, but then I thought, why stop now. That’s how all happened! However, the main goal remains the same!
Let me add my heartfelt congratulations to you, Luli2016! I’m so happy and thankful to God for enabling you to reach this amazing milestone. May you be richly blessed as you work on your goal to memorize the Gospel of John. 👏🏽 🥳
Oh my! You did it! Amazing. I know that is so hard to do and shows such commitment. Well done and thanks for showing us it is possible. I definitely get so much more when I add a verse a day. Praying you will be blessed by all the scripture now tucked away in your heart. Stay blessed. You are an inspiration! And I’m so proud of you and happy for you. Not for the badge but for the fruit in your life. (Although the badge is great too 🥳😉)
Well done Luli and congratulations on being the first to achieve Consistent Learner level 10!
Out of all the scripture learning I do on this site, I must say that I mostly enjoy adding new verses and going over them in the initial days. BUT, as we all know, it does add length to the practice list - so you have done exceeding well to persevere daily without fail for a full three years!
A piece of advice to others who would like to achieve this level; do it BEFORE you already have a lot of verses to practice - otherwise you may eventually become overwhelmed by your practice list and neglect to log on.
Congratulations, Luli! May God bless you and may the Holy Spirit teach you and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever He has taught you in your study. :)
Congratulations indeed, Luli. Three years is an amazing achievement, and I’m very pleased you’ve been able to claim the badge that Luke added. But more than the badge, I think that the daily practice you’ve developed of memory and meditation will bring its own reward in your relationship with God. I pray that you will know his blessing as you walk with him, whether or not you continue to add a new verse each day.
Thank you T-rey, Symota, biblememorizerCamilaParker and rvfc2 for your kind thoughts! Thank you Janet, AnnetteCN and PeterP for your example and encouraging support along the way, which has made the journey much more enjoyable and rewarding. I totally agree with AnnetteCN in relation to the long list of reviewing which at times gets overwhelming. My only advice would be select passages that you really enjoy and intend to memorise. If you are thinking of memorising a whole book, e.g. the book of Ephesians, make sure you break it into section or chapter. Having to review the whole 155 verses, (if I’m not mistaken) in one go and trying to add a new verse can feel like mission impossible. Thank you once again for all your encouragement and fellowship.
Thanks, yes there is a change I have made after being on this site for 5 years and being overwhelmed daily with long Review lists in which you need to practice all your verses for the sake of the one or two verses that may be due for review.
I now add sections (chapters) of the Bible and purposely keep them in the "Learn" section by not starting on the final verses until most of the verses are learned and finished. That way, only the verses that need practising come up for review - usually just a couple. Also, I have changed over to first letter typing. Hope this helps someone!
That is great advice AnnetteCN. I, too, have struggled with long chapters that require the entire chapter to be repeated constantly because of one or two verses that refuse to stick. John 6 comes to mind (71 verses). I inwardly groan every time that chapter comes up, and I've struggled not to have a bad attitude about it. I've tried breaking the chapters down into smaller chunks, but the same problem exists but on a smaller scale. Plus the chunks lose their connections to each other. I like the idea of not learning the last verse to avoid it kicking over into that mode. Better yet, I wish there was an option to disable that feature. I know you can do verse chunks instead of the whole chapter, but again, you are back to the chunking problems above.
These points represent a large portion of God’s Word that you have tucked away in your heart. Your faithfulness and dedication is an inspiration to us all. Congratulations! 👏🏽
I see you will be overtaking me very soon 🎉 Go Luli! And you’ve only been here half the time I have😳 You’ve worked so hard. And it’s great to see you still adding a verse a day. There’s no stopping you! May you grow more like Christ every day. Ooh I’ve just realised that’s another reason I forgot to put which motivates me to learn scripture every day 🙂
I’m still managing to add a new verse but not so successful at keeping the review list small 😉! Not that I’m not enjoying it! I’m getting a little frustrated with myself for not memorising the verses with the same pace but it’s a learning journey!
I’ll look forward to that. I’m just re reading Nancy Leigh DeMoss’s book “Choosing Forgiveness- your Journey to Freedom.” Its excellent! A verse set would be great 😊 👍
Thank you so much everyone! A lot can happen in two weeks... however I must confess that the encouragement and the example of many in this site has made the journey enjoyable and rewarding.
Thank you so much everyone! A lot can happen in two weeks... however I must confess that the encouragement and the example of many in this site has made the journey enjoyable and rewarding.