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There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. For example, I created a verse set for James 1:5-8 and James 1:22-25, and studied them both for several days as sets. I wanted to have those four verses together, so I decided to do a "choose individual verses" option on both. On one of them, it acted like I had never seen the four verses before. On the other, it retained my learning from my previous repetitions. Either way, I'm not sure that there is a way to rectify it without delving into the code on the site. There's certainly no setting that I can see that affects it.

Symota, maybe you previously started those verses in a combined ‘verse’? In a ‘passage set’ the verses are always presented individually, but in a ‘selection set’ it is possible to present 2 or more consecutive verses together as a single ‘verse’ for memorisation purposes. If this is the case, the individual verses and the combined ‘verse’ will be treated independently in the stats with regard to percentage learned.

The verse set I’m currently learning includes 3 verses that I previously started learning from another verse set and that are still in my stats for learning as I haven’t yet reached 100%. However, two of those verses are not crediting my previous learning and have started me back at 0%. I’m wondering if there’s a way to rectify that?

Thanks for the feedback guys. It is clear to me that those who type one letter per word have an entirely different experience than those of us who type out the whole word.

onfire247, I have to offer a huge apology. I see now that this website does indeed do auto-correct. (I've been using the "type first letter" option for years now ... and there's no autocorrect with that option). I found that out by temporarily changing my preferences back to typing out the whole word.

Within the context of having to type out every word, yes, I can see why you would want an "extension" of the auto-correct. If you feel strongly about it, you could use the contact form and write to Luke more directly about it.

I'm going to continue to use the "type first letter" option. I like it because as it speeds things up, it's more like reciting verses, and enables me to review a much larger amount of material than otherwise would be possible.

I apologize for the several messages -- I will go back to my queue now :) and try to be silent.

Onfire247, have you tried the "type first letter" option? That option is available as I use my pc, when you look at "Preferences".

Typing only the first letter of each word certainly makes things go faster, and you *still* have to remember each and every word -- and you still have three hints to use --though it is of course possible in a small number of cases to get something right "by chance".

I should have said, my message below was in response to onfire247 :)

I don't ever experience *any* auto-correction on this site of any kind ... but I do my reviewing on a pc, not on a phone. Perhaps that takes place on a phone?

I understand the feeling and also the experience behind what you said below, but .... to me, memorizing means you just have to *remember* all of those repetitions of "And Jesus answered and said to them ..." I think, we will just have to agree to disagree, onfire :)

I’m pretty sure if you stop learning a verse, the day you started that verse goes back to showing that you didn’t start a verse on that day. But if you restart learning, it the day shows once again that you started a verse that day. That certainly applies if you stop learning a verse. Not sure if that’s the same as resetting the progress as I’ve never yet done that.

If you reset progress on a verse, does it affect your daily streak?

The same argument can be made against auto-correcting for spelling, unfortunately, which the site already does. I see it as an extension of the auto-correct. To be sure, I can use the hint button (and I do sometimes), but when you have 180 verses to review, it gets a bit tedious to hit a button several times for each verse. I'm not sure how you memorize, but after seven chapters of dialogue heavy John, it is getting a little old [Translation choices fault, not this website]. In my opinion, auto-corrections of this sort are not cheating because the way these phrases are presented does not add anything to the dialogue that comes afterward. Besides, if I wanted it too easy I would just refresh every verse until I got 100% on it.

In my opinion your suggestion would make things too easy. We are here to memorize, after all, and we already have three hints on each verse (or 2 or 1 on shorter ones) :)

No, just a suggestion. I've noticed that most of the mistakes I make revolve around the following four phrase variations: "Jesus said," "Jesus answered," "Jesus replied," and "Jesus then said" ("Jesus" can be replaced with whoever is talking in the narrative). Since most of these translation variations are interpretive choices of the same Greek word in the NT, I was going to suggest that the program autocorrect one phrase to the other automatically.

Not as far as I’m aware. This is the most likely place he’ll check. He’s a busy man though so I’m not sure how often he’s on here. Is there something someone else could help with?

Is there an official feedback group that Spookylukey looks at on here?

Susieq if you have not added any verses you want to learn, go to the bar at the top, click on "Choose" and start adding some. Then as joosep says, click on the "Learn" tab.

"After saving ..." Do you mean after saving a set of verses?

Did you click "Learn" at the bottom?

I have just signed up and filled in my preferences. After saving I can’t seem to get to the next oage

Also, you get points for reviewing. The more often you review, the more points you get. Especially in a shorter amount of time. Someone who checks the site twice a day will rack up points a lot slower than someone who is on 6 times a day. :D

I was trying to say, onfire247, that it's possible that one of those users you mentioned (though I can't say for sure) used to have more verses which they were reviewing, which perhaps they put on a "stop learning" status, perhaps to shorten their queue. That would cause their number of verses which they are currently learning to be reduced. But they still would keep the points for those verses which they have just stopped.

I can answer that in part. People get points for reviewing verses in their queues. I can't speak about others, but with respect to myself, I used to have a lot more verses in my queue, than I do now -- but I reset everything and decided to focus on a much smaller number of verses back in October 2019. Hence, I've got a lot of points, but only 5 finished. Resetting my verses didn't result in my losing any points.

Users also get point bonuses for various badges of course, and also, whenever a verse becomes fully learnt, there's also an extra bonus for that one verse that kicks in. There's also an extra bonus when reviewing whenever you get 100% correct.

I am not sure how the point system works on this site. Some people have really good stats but low points, while others have similar stats but high points. For example, AnnetteCN has 99m points with 2418 started and 1468 finished, while GSHd has 48m points with 1200 more started and 20 more learned. Seems to me that their point totals should be similar. Surely accuracy and achievement differences can't account for such a large point variance? I'm guessing that at some point the point tallying changed (which explains oddities like A1 being so high with such low activity).

I see. I thought it was probably just an anomaly on the Dashboard wall count. Thanks for the info.

There’s some inconsistency with the verse counting. Originally Prov 3:5-6, if learnt together would have counted as one ‘verse’ in the stats. And if you learned them separately, (eg if you learned the whole of Proverbs 3), then v5 and v6 would count as 2 new verses in the stats.
So a couple of years ago, Luke fixed this anomaly, so that you are recognised as learning 2 actual Bible verses, regardless of whether you learn them separately or as a combined ‘verse’. But an unfortunate side-effect of this is that your 100 verse set is presented as 69 ‘verses’, even though the actual stats will record that you’ve started learning 100 verses when you’ve done them all.

Actually, I noticed it with several group verses. In fact, I deleted them and added them separately as new verses (since I had just started them yesterday) and my total went up. I guess my first clue should have been when I created a group with 100 verses, it only said that I was learning 68 verses when I started it. Up until now, I had just been learning whole chapters rather than individuals. Now that I know, I can work around it. Thanks for the response.

I think the Prov 3:5-6 one looks like an anomaly. The last comment made by Spookyluky seem to imply that it should count as 2 verses.

Would it be possible to make it so that we could delete groups that we have created that no one is learning? Or is there an option for that I am missing? I have some groups floating around that I made when I was new to the website that are no longer relevant.

I also noticed that if you edit a group you created and are learning, that the system will not register that change. For example, I found Isa. 55:10-11 to be too big of a chunk to learn together, so I edited the group to separate them. When it came time to learn them, however, they were still together.

I created a public verse set with Prov. 3:5-6 in it, and I just noticed that the system only counts those two verses as one instead of two on the daily total. Is that by design?

Steady is good. Steady is much more important than fast.

I’m a plodder. Slow and steady! I guess I’ve been here longer than most. But I still love this website and the help it is to me in meditating on and memorising God’s word. I hope I memorise many more. And grow more Christlike in the process 🙂

speaking of points ... you're nearing 50 million, JDJDJD. You've meditated on and memorized a lot of verses during your time here :)

Yes it’s happened to me now so I see what you mean. I don’t mind though as you get the extra bonus points again for finishing a verse. 😁

Grateful for these comments. The most "advanced" verses I currently have are between 70 and 90 percent. So this discussion is helpful to me in knowing how things will develop :)

Yes, I noticed that too. My guess is that progress has actually reached 99.5% and it is being rounded up for the display. But it never happened until the last few days, so something has been changed.

I can't remember where, but somewhere you can choose to keep reviewing verses even after they are 100% learned. So maybe a setting needs changing. Maybe someone else can help with where to find that setting.

Yes, I noticed that as well and have contacted the webmaster about it.

Have others noticed recently that 100% sometimes still requires additional tests?

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